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Message 7789 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 15:46:28 UTC - in response to Message 7784.  
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My computers are hidden too, please look into this for us. I\'m not sure if my cosmology credits are getting counted? At Boinc stats I show NO Credit between Nov 18th until Dec !8, I\'m not sure if I ran any WU\'s during that time but it seems I would have under normal cicumstances, I believe some corrections might be needed, please keep us informed on any progress on this issue. If there is anything I can do please let me know, thanks in advance for any useful advice thats offered.
Same problem here.
My host:
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/results.php?hostid=38486

My host/pc statistics:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=4884628
http://it.allprojectstats.com/show.php?projekt=0&id=4372583

Why are hosts hidden on account stats?
Any idea to fix this error?
Our account is shared by many different people (I wanted to promote Cosmology but wit this bug it will be impossible) and it\'s not so funny having my pc without credits everyday.


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Message 7790 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 17:37:56 UTC

According to Boinc Stats, Cosmology lost over 14000 hosts on Nov 30th /08.
I think the number of lost hosts alone should be cause for some action dont you?
This is the kind of thing that DOES cause people to detach, please rectify the problem ASAP, thanks.
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Message 7807 - Posted: 21 Jan 2009, 18:06:48 UTC

It\'s been a week since anyone posted in this thread. An update from the staff would be really nice.

I see that things really haven\'t changed much here over the last 9 - 12 months; little, if any, communications from the staff. Not a good way to run a project.


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Message 7808 - Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 1:31:24 UTC

To everyone concerned about this issue, firstly let me inform you that I have not been on campus, or close to a computer with internet for that reason, for the past month. I apologize for not leaving a message about my long absence from the forum, I will definitely do so in the future.
I am currently trying to find some sort of workaround for this problem and will confer with Professor Wandelt as quickly as possible.
I promise an update on progress VERY soon. Thank you for your patience.
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Message 7809 - Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 12:18:25 UTC

We wait.
Thank you for the answer ^^

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Message 7810 - Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 21:30:16 UTC

UPDATE! (yes, finally!)
Like many of our previous problems, this one too does not seem to be affecting EVERYONE running the project. Bad news is that these are the hardest kinds of problems to solve as they do not commonly affect anyone running cosmology@home and so there\'s some tiny, little, minuscule line of code somewhere that a group of computers, or BOINC version does not like.
Good news is that we have actually managed to find a few of these buggy lines of code in the past few months and fixed them (HTTP errors, permission issues, etc.) so I\'m fairly certain I WILL be able to find out whats causing this and fix it. given all the updates and cleanups both Scott and I did last semester, my guess is that we changed something that our stats export code does not enjoy. Once again, if anyone has any suggestions to help expedite this process they would be most welcome.

I will put up a message on the home page once I track down and kill this rodent. Thank you all for your patience.
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Message 7813 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 12:57:53 UTC - in response to Message 7810.  

Once again, if anyone has any suggestions to help expedite this process they would be most welcome.


Anshul,

Please see my earlier post in this thread. I don\'t don\'t know if it came about as a code change, if it did it would have been on November 28th, 29th or 30th, so there should be few changes to check. It may be an enviromental problem of course; database / file /volume is full or faulty etc. If you still have any job logs from November 30th that would be a good place to start.

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Message 7819 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009, 20:05:23 UTC

I have implemented a workaround for this problem. We will wait for the next xml update to go out, which should happen around 18:50 GMT on the 29th of January, and see if it worked. Let me know about positive/negative feedback as soon as you have any! Thanks!
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Message 7820 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 14:31:59 UTC
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My host in cosmology:
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/results.php?hostid=38486

My host/pc statistics:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=4884628
http://it.allprojectstats.com/show.php?projekt=0&id=4372583


Nothing changed... no cosmology... :(
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Message 7821 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 15:43:42 UTC - in response to Message 7820.  

My host in cosmology:
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/results.php?hostid=38486

My host/pc statistics:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=4884628
http://it.allprojectstats.com/show.php?projekt=0&id=4372583


Nothing changed... no cosmology... :(


If I go into my account on Cosmology and follow the link to \"computers on this account\" I can see that the total credit for my two machines is a little more than that currently showing on Boinc Stats for the Cosmology project. That is probably correct due to time between the stats export from here and when I checked. However, my hosts total on Boinc Stats is still well adrift from the total for the project or the overall total. The reason may have something to do with this!

I did find a nice graphical representation of the original Cosmology problem from Boinc Combined stats.

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Message 7824 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009, 7:10:13 UTC - in response to Message 7821.  

My host in cosmology:
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/results.php?hostid=38486

My host/pc statistics:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=4884628
http://it.allprojectstats.com/show.php?projekt=0&id=4372583


Nothing changed... no cosmology... :(


If I go into my account on Cosmology and follow the link to \"computers on this account\" I can see that the total credit for my two machines is a little more than that currently showing on Boinc Stats for the Cosmology project. That is probably correct due to time between the stats export from here and when I checked. However, my hosts total on Boinc Stats is still well adrift from the total for the project or the overall total. The reason may have something to do with this!

I did find a nice graphical representation of the original Cosmology problem from Boinc Combined stats.

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I have looked at numerous graphs like that one which show the steep drop of hosts on November 30th. But BOINC Stats also shows regular xml file updates for users/hosts/teams from Cosmology@home. I\'m fast running out of ideas but I still have a few things to try. If anyone finds more information regarding how these xml updates work I\'d love to take a look at it. The main problem is that I cannot find the program that is responsible for updating the host.gz file on our server which is the root of the problem.
I will do some more reading online about this and give you a more positive update soon.
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Message 7825 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009, 12:44:25 UTC - in response to Message 7824.  

If anyone finds more information regarding how these xml updates work I\'d love to take a look at it. The main problem is that I cannot find the program that is responsible for updating the host.gz file on our server which is the root of the problem.

DbDump creates the XML Stats.
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Message 7826 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009, 20:43:26 UTC

After taking some quick looks thru the HOSTS export, it appears that something is keeping it from running to the end when it builds. It looks like that other than a few aberrations, the HostID\'s stop at around 14,000.

My host IDs are all above 20,000, which may explain why I\'m not showing up in the exports.


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Message 7830 - Posted: 1 Feb 2009, 14:30:42 UTC

14405 and 14407 are the last exported hosts in actually host.gz.
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Message 7831 - Posted: 1 Feb 2009, 15:33:36 UTC

Thanks, I couldn\'t remember the exact HostID numbers that it stops at.


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Message 7838 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 2:01:02 UTC

Once again, and this time with the help of the BOINC project administrators (mailing list), I have implemented a possible solution. Just in case, had any new teams joined in November last year whose description exceeded 1024 characters? There was a bug in db_dump that caused it to crash for this reason. I have updated db_dump to the most recent server-stable version without this bug so that might just do the trick.
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Message 7839 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 13:28:42 UTC - in response to Message 7838.  
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Once again, and this time with the help of the BOINC project administrators (mailing list), I have implemented a possible solution. Just in case, had any new teams joined in November last year whose description exceeded 1024 characters? There was a bug in db_dump that caused it to crash for this reason. I have updated db_dump to the most recent server-stable version without this bug so that might just do the trick.


My hosts are still \"Hidden\" at Boinc Stats (BAM) as of 8:15am EST. Maybe we have to wait until oosmology updates at Boinc stats? My host IDs are 37764 & 29656 if this helps?
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Message 7840 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 16:00:18 UTC - in response to Message 7839.  

Cosmo should run an update of host-stats. I have downloaded the host.gz for a few minutes and there is no changing. Host 14407 is the last entry. I think the next host will be the troublemaker.
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Message 7841 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 16:41:26 UTC
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I was just going to post the same thing rroonnaalldd.

Little if anything has changed in the hosts export. The file size should be at least twice as large as it is, possibly 3 or 4 times the size.

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And I don\'t know if this helps or not, but if you try to look for host # 14408 (which you would expect to be the next one in sequence) you get a \"database error, couldn\'t find computer\" message.
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/testsite/show_host_detail.php?hostid=14408
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Message 7842 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 21:30:17 UTC

Just had a look through all 1159 (groan) teams and none of them have a name that exceeds about 110 characters.
So I duno what it is.
Some of them have got silly names........ :)
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