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Message 6929 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 22:04:51 UTC

Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:16:56 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:16:56 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:17:56 PM Fetching scheduler list
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:18:01 PM Master file download succeeded
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:18:06 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4973 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:18:11 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:18:11 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:18:11 PM Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:19:11 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4973 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:19:16 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:19:16 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:19:16 PM Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:20:16 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4973 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:20:21 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:20:21 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:20:21 PM Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:21:22 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4973 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:21:27 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:21:27 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:21:27 PM Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:22:27 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4973 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:22:32 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:22:32 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:22:32 PM Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:24:52 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4974 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:24:57 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:24:57 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:27:17 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4974 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:27:22 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:27:22 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:43:07 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4975 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:43:12 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 3:43:12 PM Message from server: No work sent
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 4:24:03 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 4976 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 4:24:08 PM Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
Cosmology@Home 8/6/2008 4:24:08 PM Message from server: No work sent

If someone wouldn\'t mind kicking the scheduler (or whole server) or whatever it is you do when no work gets sent then I\'ll crunch some more for Cosmo... otherwise I\'ll just keep crunching other projects (which is what I wind up doing most of the time lately anyhow).

<shrug> at this point I\'m probably beyond caring which occurs.
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Message 6931 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 22:21:21 UTC - in response to Message 6929.  
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If someone wouldn\'t mind kicking the scheduler (or whole server) or whatever it is you do when no work gets sent then I\'ll crunch some more for Cosmo... otherwise I\'ll just keep crunching other projects (which is what I wind up doing most of the time lately anyhow).

<shrug> at this point I\'m probably beyond caring which occurs.


Just a few minutes after your post, I decided to attempt getting work from here. I got 1 whole task, then nothing but \"no work from project\", not even that there was work assigned to other platforms...

Edit: That 1 task was a resend. So to top it all off, completing this task will cause whoever it was with the X2 3800+ that processed the task with 2.12 to get shafted...

Maybe all that are going out now are resends and the generator is off? It\'d be nice if we were told...

This project sure has gone off the deep end this time...
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Message 6934 - Posted: 7 Aug 2008, 1:13:35 UTC

I now have a full cache of work, but as I was suspecting, they are all resends of one kind or another. Some are 2.12->2.14/2.15 tasks, while others are \"no reply\" from other 2.14/2.15 tasks...

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Message 6935 - Posted: 7 Aug 2008, 7:00:26 UTC
Last modified: 7 Aug 2008, 7:20:43 UTC

8/6/2008 10:43:15 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416339 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 10:43:20 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 10:43:20 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 10:48:05 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 416432 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 10:48:10 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 10:48:10 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:08:55 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416787 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:09:00 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:09:00 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:10:00 PM|Cosmology@Home|Fetching scheduler list
8/6/2008 11:10:05 PM|Cosmology@Home|Master file download succeeded
8/6/2008 11:10:10 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416805 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:10:15 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:10:15 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:11:15 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416823 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:11:20 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:11:20 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:12:21 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416838 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:12:26 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:12:26 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:13:26 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416854 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:13:31 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:13:31 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:14:31 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416870 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:14:36 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:14:36 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:16:26 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416896 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:16:31 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:16:31 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:21:31 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 416970 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:21:36 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:21:36 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:23:36 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 416998 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:23:41 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:23:41 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/6/2008 11:28:06 PM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 417057 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/6/2008 11:28:11 PM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/6/2008 11:28:11 PM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 12:31:12 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 417731 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 12:31:17 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 12:31:17 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 12:57:37 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 417973 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 12:57:42 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 12:57:42 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 12:58:42 AM|Cosmology@Home|Fetching scheduler list
8/7/2008 12:58:47 AM|Cosmology@Home|Master file download succeeded
8/7/2008 12:58:52 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 417983 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 12:58:57 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 12:58:57 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 12:59:57 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 417993 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:00:02 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:00:02 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 1:01:02 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 418004 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:01:07 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:01:07 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 1:02:07 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 418012 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:02:12 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:02:12 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 1:03:13 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 418020 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:03:18 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:03:18 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 1:04:53 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 418036 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:04:58 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:04:58 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 1:08:03 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 418060 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:08:08 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:08:08 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 1:21:33 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 418170 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:21:38 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:21:38 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 1:42:08 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 418338 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:42:13 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:42:13 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
8/7/2008 1:46:54 AM|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 418378 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
8/7/2008 1:46:59 AM|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
8/7/2008 1:46:59 AM|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent

well not sure where to post this but I have been seeing this for 28 hours. I have received a few tasks but I noticed that this machine is sitting at one task at a time and has been idle a few times today for hr\'s with nothing to crunch. http://www.cosmologyathome.org/show_host_detail.php?hostid=24121 . Actually all of my machines have been seeing this message but the others do have some work all be it not much in the case of my P4 two tasks at a time. My linux box had some in que but it is also not keeping up with requests for work
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Message 6947 - Posted: 7 Aug 2008, 20:49:07 UTC
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This computer is not getting any work for what ever reason http://www.cosmologyathome.org/show_host_detail.php?hostid=28988
I have tried detaching... does not seem to change anything. message from server no work sent.
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Message 6948 - Posted: 7 Aug 2008, 21:01:41 UTC - in response to Message 6947.  

This computer is not getting any work for what ever reason here
I have tried detaching... does not seem to change anything. message from server no work sent.


I looked through the task list of your other systems and yet again all tasks are resends. So I am relatively certain that the only work going out are resends. The reason you don\'t pick up any is because a host with the same HR (Homogenous Redundancy) classification has not had a task expire or a task did expire, but was reassigned to someone with a similar system to your own before your system requested work again.

I was....less-than-satisfied...with Ben\'s appearance here. It gives the impression that he thinks everything is running just fine. I guess he isn\'t aware that having stats pages state that there are plenty of tasks to send, but most people only get trickles of work, does not appear \"normal\" or \"just fine\" to participants who have \"been around the block\", as it were...

I dunno. I halfway want to just abort the tasks that I have and come back to this project when it has its\' act together again...
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Message 6949 - Posted: 7 Aug 2008, 22:23:29 UTC
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Thanks for the reply. I hope this is resolved soon as this is the only project I am crunching atm I did notice before I detached the last time that the server thought I had 6 tasks that my manager and file folder did not reflect. Since then I have determined that it is not an issue on my end by totally uninstalling project and boinc manager, and re installing and re attaching to the project still the same message. I tried to upgrade to the new boinc manager but when I hit the upgrade button on the Boinc webpage it just downloaded 5.10.45 again , not sure what that is all about...
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Message 6958 - Posted: 8 Aug 2008, 23:03:09 UTC

Well, I have no clue if this relates at all, but I\'ve started to notice that the only machines that have no work are all of mine with Intel processors. All of my AMD machines are getting work on the first request they make.

In order to give one more little test to this, I went ahead and resumed the project on 2 AMD computers that I had suspended (in frustration at the crazy high processing times they were getting compared to intels) and they both immediately got work.

However, 2 Core2 machines, 2 Xeons and yes... even a sad little Celeron have all been denied work for about the last 48 hours solid with the notable exception of 1 Core2 machine that got one resend.

I\'m curious so when I get home in about 1/2 hour I\'m going to try resuming the project on an AMD there as well.

Anyone else seeing anything similar or am I just inventing a condition that fits the symptoms du jour?
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Message 6959 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 0:54:58 UTC

Yep, sure \'nuf.

I can now say that every single AMD machine that wants work gets it on the first request and every single Intel machine that wants work is denied it 99% of the time.

I have no idea if it will make any differene because we\'re only talking about 7 computers, but despite AMD\'s just plain sucking at this project, I\'ve resumed them all. Perhaps that will help clear some out of the way to find the Intel ones that are buried somewhere in that stack of 76k waiting to send.

Otherwise it means that the WU generator HR class ratios are grossly out of whack and nearly all of that work is slated for AMDs. :-\\
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Message 6960 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 0:55:04 UTC - in response to Message 6958.  
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Anyone else seeing anything similar or am I just inventing a condition that fits the symptoms du jour?


The only system I have running this project now is my AMD, so, sure, why not. Plausable explanation as anything else..

Most of my tasks (before the great upheaval) were paired up with some \"anonymous\" X2 3800+ systems. Those look to have gone silent. It could be that a lot of people with K8-based systems just said \"screw it\" and gave up. Dunno... I guess Apoch didn\'t like the fact that their computers were visible, because they\'re now hidden. I think though that they had AMD systems as well...but not sure.

Looking at Severesen\'s P4 3.0GHz though, tasks have been downloaded in the past 2 days...

It\'s probably just some sort of \"pecking order\" on how they got doled out by the scheduler in concert with Homogeneous Redundancy classes... Perhaps large batches went out to Intel systems for an hour or so, then it switched up to AMD systems...? If you ask for work now and you request during the times that your same HR class is timing out, you\'ll get work, otherwise you won\'t...

In any case, this project is far from being \"stable\"... Like I said to Eric over at SETI, when things were running good, this was a production level project. When things run poorly, like now, it is more of an \"alpha\" project. Blend those together and you have \"beta\", which is what the claimed level of the project is right now...
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Message 6961 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 2:11:45 UTC - in response to Message 6960.  

Looking at Severesen\'s P4 3.0GHz though, tasks have been downloaded in the past 2 days...


I\'m going to guess that the P4 would be in a different HR class from the Core2. I only have 2 of them that would be in an HR class with the host you linked to. One got 1 WU about 3 hours ago, but only after asking repeatedly for about 12 hours, so it was probably a random resend.

Only 1 AMD system has had to ask for more work more than once in the last week and that was only 5 requests and it got a task (so a delay of a few minutes).

I guess I\'ll keep watching it, but I guess I\'d say that from my watching so far there\'s lots for Athlon 64\'s, a little for P4\'s and virtually nothing for Core2\'s and \'Core\' type Xeons.
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Message 6962 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 2:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 6961.  


I guess I\'ll keep watching it, but I guess I\'d say that from my watching so far there\'s lots for Athlon 64\'s, a little for P4\'s and virtually nothing for Core2\'s and \'Core\' type Xeons.


I allowed my AMD to contact again and ask for work. It got 4 resend tasks on the first try. One of which is this workunit. Another task somewhere in my results is labled \"too many total\", which is what this should end up as, but it did get credit. I am pretty sure that any of the \"too many\" (success, error, total) messages used to mean you got nada. If that\'s the case, I guess we will need to guess if the \"success\" instance was also corrected...

Yep, \"stable\"... You know, like a stable of horses... Hmmm...what\'s that on the ground? oO
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Message 6963 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 5:41:42 UTC - in response to Message 6962.  
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Yep, \"stable\"... You know, like a stable of horses... Hmmm...what\'s that on the ground? oO


Yeah, I agree. :-P When I read Ben Wandelt stating \"it is clear that Scott has been working on fixing the server problems we were suffering. They are now fixed and C@H is running smoothly\" I didn\'t know whether to laugh or cry. Either he\'s so insulated from the actual experience of the volunteers or he\'s deluded enough to believe that just because he says it enough, it\'s true. Either way I lost a good chunk of respect for the project in those two flippant statements. Evidently he\'s not noticed that Cosmo is processing less work than it has in months and at least 3/4 of the productivity of the project (even taking into account the reduction in credit) is just plain gone now. Funny how any one of us volunteers can see it and call BS on those statements.

I continue to see Athlon 64 HR classes getting all the work they want, so I\'ll keep letting them take it. Perhaps we volunteers can do a bit to \"unscrew\" this project DESPITE it\'s staff\'s best efforts to do otherwise.
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Message 6966 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 17:38:54 UTC - in response to Message 6963.  
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Either he\'s so insulated from the actual experience of the volunteers or he\'s deluded enough to believe that just because he says it enough, it\'s true.


Well, bear in mind that I actually called and left a message. It could\'ve been something else that triggered his visit, but it appears that it was my message on his voice mail that was the trigger.

I know that I specifically mentioned people not getting credit for work performed and the cross-application validation problems, but I cannot say for sure if I mentioned the work generator / feeder problems. As I think back, I don\'t think that I did...

I\'ll call back and mention the following:

  • Status page indicating results to be sent, but many people not receiving work.
  • When work is received, all work received are resends of prior tasks that have timed out or errored out on other machines.
  • Need to increase the number of allowed error/total/success results per workunit, due to the prior point.
  • Understood message about credit, but it seems to be a bit harsh, especially when the participants realized problems very quickly, but could not get the attention of the project. Additionally, it looks like perhaps HR being enabled here played a role, as when others in your HR class decide to bail out, you are impacted because of the error/total/success problems. Also, anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that there may be too many HR classes.



I\'ll do that in a little while...


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Message 6973 - Posted: 9 Aug 2008, 23:34:29 UTC - in response to Message 6966.  


I\'ll call back and mention the following:

  • Status page indicating results to be sent, but many people not receiving work.
  • When work is received, all work received are resends of prior tasks that have timed out or errored out on other machines.
  • Need to increase the number of allowed error/total/success results per workunit, due to the prior point.
  • Understood message about credit, but it seems to be a bit harsh, especially when the participants realized problems very quickly, but could not get the attention of the project. Additionally, it looks like perhaps HR being enabled here played a role, as when others in your HR class decide to bail out, you are impacted because of the error/total/success problems. Also, anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that there may be too many HR classes.





No need to call - I just read your problem description. I was not aware of the work distribution problems until I read these messages. We are looking into what\'s going on. I\'ve sent a message to Scott, too.

The key statement about my \"status of the project\" method was the statement that we are in the middle of staffing changes which means that right now no one is dedicated to the day-to-day operation of C@H. We should have someone soon, though. Until that point Scott and I will of course maintain C@H on a best effort basis.

I\'ll keep you updated.

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Message 6975 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 6:27:03 UTC - in response to Message 6973.  


The key statement about my \"status of the project\" method was the statement that we are in the middle of staffing changes which means that right now no one is dedicated to the day-to-day operation of C@H. We should have someone soon, though. Until that point Scott and I will of course maintain C@H on a best effort basis.


Thanks for the response Ben... I got distracted with some things around the house, then decided to play Civ 4 again, so this is my first time back on in a few hours...

Anyway, there have been many problems with this project for several weeks. I can certainly appreciate being under-staffed, however rolling out major changes to the software during this time of staffing problems may not have been ultimately in the best interest of the success of the project, particularly when there were so many issues with the new versions. Many of us would help you test changes before releasing them to everyone, if there was a mechanism for it. You may want to consider setting up a testing mechanism like what Bruce Allen and Bernd Machenschalk do over at Einstein. Apps are developed and tested internally, then moved to a \"beta test\" or \"power users\" area.

Also, the no credit issue is pretty severe for some people. I\'m not in too bad shape myself, but I have browsed the list of several people and can see hundreds of tasks that were worked on in good faith that are receving no credit for them. In my opinion, you might consider at least half-credit. This could help retain participants.

Thanks,

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Message 6976 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 8:15:45 UTC - in response to Message 6975.  
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In my opinion, you might consider at least half-credit. This could help retain participants.

I\'ll remember this post as something to point at when the complaints come in about this half-credit. :-)
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Message 6977 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 9:13:09 UTC
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I received 3 workunits without any \"no work sent\" between.

They seem to be special resent ones, old WUs cancelled (status \"didn\'t need\") but then reactivated for 2.15 (having a higher result ID)

I guess the delivery had been stuck because there was no active application anymore for handling the original created results.
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Message 6978 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 9:17:11 UTC

well the work started flowing again but looking at the wu\'s sent I see that almost all already have reported results that the server says it does not need. Also when I detached the server does not report this in my account page it still thinks I have tasks . I really have no idea what is going on. So all I can do is come back at a later date.

Good luck see you all around the bend
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Message 6979 - Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 9:43:28 UTC - in response to Message 6978.  

well the work started flowing again but looking at the wu\'s sent I see that almost all already have reported results that the server says it does not need. Also when I detached the server does not report this in my account page it still thinks I have tasks . I really have no idea what is going on. So all I can do is come back at a later date.

Good luck see you all around the bend


See ya APoch, Rumour has it 2018 might be a good year to try again ... hahahaha ... j/k ... come back when you get ready to. Personally I set all my Box\'s to NNW some time ago, I don\'t want them to set idle and this Project just wasn\'t supplying them with work or credit for the ones I did do so I went were I can get both.

I\'ll run the Project again myself but not until things get back to normal and who knows when that will be, for now it doesn\'t look good so I\'ll stay at NNW for the immediate future ... Cheers
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