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Message 6679 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 15:03:47 UTC

I\'m not getting any new work either, for at least three or four days. It\'s always \"no work from project\" even when there are thousands of units supposedly waiting for distribution. I\'m running Linux on Intel P4 CPUs at 2.4 to 2.8 GHz, which should be adequate to receive work if people with P3s running Windows 98 are getting it. Some parameter is definitely set incorrectly here.

I\'ve tried resetting the project, and I notice that all it downloads are graphics. No actual application seems to be downloaded.
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Message 6680 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 21:54:38 UTC

OMG! A news item! (from yesterday) New work with lensing turned back on coming later today! (which was actually yesterday)

/me faints. |-P

Well.... perhaps late and not quite totally accurate news is better than no news? :)
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Message 6681 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 22:48:59 UTC - in response to Message 6680.  

OMG! A news item! (from yesterday) New work with lensing turned back on coming later today! (which was actually yesterday)

/me faints. |-P

Well.... perhaps late and not quite totally accurate news is better than no news? :)


Depends on if the validator handles both types...
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Message 6682 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 23:14:57 UTC
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Yep. just got 27 of the new CAMB 2.13 WUs, every single one of them errored out with a \"process creation failed\" error.

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Message 6684 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 23:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 6682.  

Yep. just got 27 of the new CAMB 2.13 WUs, every single one of them errored out with a \"process creation failed\" error.


Same with the 3 I got. I started a new thread about it.
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Message 6686 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 23:36:49 UTC

Let\'s keep problems with CAMB 2.13 in Thunder\'s thread. Or in the Urgent Problems thread, of course. ;-)
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Message 6694 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 1:50:37 UTC

I have close to 1700 Wu\'s spread out across the Pharm but their all 2.12\'s, didn\'t see a single 2.13 yet ... :)
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Message 6724 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 23:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 6669.  


It also seems to explain why we are seeing alternately \"No work\" messages and \"committed to other platforms\". If the 10 day deadline has not expired on any wu in the units to send we will see \"No Work\" but if something is available and was first processed by an AMD machine and your machine is Intel you will get the \"committed to other platforms\" message. (And vice versa, of course).

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I thought \"platform\" meant OS?

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Message 6725 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 0:13:07 UTC - in response to Message 6724.  

I thought \"platform\" meant OS?

It\'s a little wider than that when it comes to Homogeneous Redundancy, which Cosmo is using.

Then you have the choice of 4 OSes with 20 CPU types and the classes Windows, Linux, Mac-PPC and Mac-Intel. Then there are the anonymous platforms, which are a grouping by themselves. ;-)
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Message 6728 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 16:10:40 UTC
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Hello!

Since the new app is out at Tuesday I try and try and try regularly to get work, but all I get is this message in the client:
24.07.2008 18:01:03|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 59428 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
24.07.2008 18:01:08|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
24.07.2008 18:01:08|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent


The server status says, there are WUs out, but I can\'t get a single one of them.
I even resetted the project to get rid of old files, so that the new CAMB is downloading, but nothing.
So where is the problem? Or are there really no WUs at the moment?

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Forgot I tried under Linux and under Windows, no success either... :-(
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Message 6730 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 17:01:45 UTC

I have been getting a no work sent message on two machines. One is a linux 64 and the other is a 32bit windows XP. My windows box has not recieved any work at all. I have already tried re- attaching to the project with both machines. My linux 64 bit did get about 5 wu\'s but as of yesterday it stopped getting any work.
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Message 6731 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 17:25:54 UTC

Same problem here. My two Vista Intel quads have had no work from Cosmology since yesterday. One machine got 7 of the new 2.14 wu\'s as I reported elsewhere on this forum. The other machine got 4 wu\'s later on yesterday. Since the last one of those completed around 19:00 Utc yesterday my machines have been on other projects full-time. They are set up to look for work on Cosmology on a regular basis but nothing has been forthcoming.

Since yesterday the number of workunits to send has been slowly but steadily falling whenever I have checked the server stats page.

I suspect that the supply of wu\'s to Windows machines will be drip fed to us now as the wu\'s I got yesterday were re-sends of parameters send out with version 2.13 which didn\'t work on windows (empty .exe file). If no action can be taken centrally by the project to cancel all the outstanding Windows 2.13 wu\'s they won\'t be re-sent as 2.14 wu\'s until either:

they are crunched and reported as failures

or

they pass their ten day deadline.

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Message 6733 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 20:57:46 UTC

Thanks, Scott.

Work is starting to flow down again (from about 20:00 utc)! Results ready to send on server stats page is increasing!

See announcement from Scott @ http://boincstats.com/index.php?list

\"Committed to other platform\" messages have also started again but at least some requests are successful.

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Message 6801 - Posted: 28 Jul 2008, 19:29:24 UTC
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28/07/2008 21:05:50|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 1026 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
28/07/2008 21:05:55|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
28/07/2008 21:05:55|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent

Loads of work showing in the queue. Have had 1 wu 26th then nothing.
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Message 6857 - Posted: 1 Aug 2008, 18:33:18 UTC

I have no idea if I\'m the only one having trouble getting work for the last few days or if nobody else is posting because they\'ve just come to accept this as the \"status quo\" for the project. I\'m guessing we\'d have fewer posts if we all posted when we DO get new work rather than when we don\'t.

In any case, if any of the project developers care, I\'ve got 3 machines completely out of work and most of the rest are only getting by because they\'ll occasionally get 1 new task and I\'ve reduced the resource for this project enough that they can get by with making 50 scheduler requests for every task they manage to get.

I\'m guessing I\'m not the only one having the problem since the \"Results ready to send\" on the status page has only gone down by about 10-12 per hour for as long as I\'ve been watching it.

Sure would be nice if you\'d give us all a little info as to what\'s being done...
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Message 6860 - Posted: 1 Aug 2008, 19:17:56 UTC - in response to Message 6857.  

I have no idea if I\'m the only one having trouble getting work for the last few days or if nobody else is posting because they\'ve just come to accept this as the \"status quo\" for the project. I\'m guessing we\'d have fewer posts if we all posted when we DO get new work rather than when we don\'t.

In any case, if any of the project developers care, I\'ve got 3 machines completely out of work and most of the rest are only getting by because they\'ll occasionally get 1 new task and I\'ve reduced the resource for this project enough that they can get by with making 50 scheduler requests for every task they manage to get.

I\'m guessing I\'m not the only one having the problem since the \"Results ready to send\" on the status page has only gone down by about 10-12 per hour for as long as I\'ve been watching it.

Sure would be nice if you\'d give us all a little info as to what\'s being done...


I\'m not getting any work either.
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Message 6866 - Posted: 1 Aug 2008, 22:03:01 UTC - in response to Message 6860.  

I have no idea if I\'m the only one having trouble getting work for the last few days or if nobody else is posting because they\'ve just come to accept this as the \"status quo\" for the project. I\'m guessing we\'d have fewer posts if we all posted when we DO get new work rather than when we don\'t.

In any case, if any of the project developers care, I\'ve got 3 machines completely out of work and most of the rest are only getting by because they\'ll occasionally get 1 new task and I\'ve reduced the resource for this project enough that they can get by with making 50 scheduler requests for every task they manage to get.

I\'m guessing I\'m not the only one having the problem since the \"Results ready to send\" on the status page has only gone down by about 10-12 per hour for as long as I\'ve been watching it.

Sure would be nice if you\'d give us all a little info as to what\'s being done...


I\'m not getting any work either.

Same for me. No new work. Why?
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Message 6867 - Posted: 1 Aug 2008, 22:24:16 UTC - in response to Message 6866.  


I\'m not getting any work either.

Same for me. No new work. Why?


I don\'t think I\'d even worry about it. Most likely if you do get something, it will be a resend of an older task that may already be at the limit of either the total, error, or success results...

Lord only knows when this project will be back to just mildly insane rather than the full-on nuts that it is right now...

BTW, for those that remember, I would still like to be a \"broken record\" and say that the project should\'ve reverted back to CAMB 2.05 and really tested the new software. We\'re essentially in the same position now, going from non-lensing to lensing, and here we are again with things completely messed up.


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Message 6905 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 5:45:48 UTC

Anyone else getting the old (and oft seen) \"can\'t attach shared memory\" report from the scheduler when they try to report/get tasks?

I\'m not terribly surprised that we\'re seeing it again since the status page is reporting that there are in excess of 84k tasks ready to send. You\'d think the project folks would get the idea that every time they run the ready to send up to such a rediculous number it completely whacks the database. I mean, come on... if the HR ratios are even remotely close to the actual platforms that are connecting and asking for work then the work generation script shouldn\'t be having to make more until it gets down to a couple thousand tasks ready to send. :P The database clearly doesn\'t have the capacity to handle the total number of tasks between a massive amount \"ready to send\", in-progress and the ludicrous number of tasks waiting to be purged since it\'s set to hold tasks before purging longer than any other project I\'ve seen shy of CPDN (who can\'t purge their tasks ever due to the nature of the project).

Ya\'all ever heard the expression that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?
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Message 6908 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 12:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 6905.  

Anyone else getting the old (and oft seen) \"can\'t attach shared memory\" report from the scheduler when they try to report/get tasks?


No, I haven\'t seen that message for some time - not sure I\'ve seen it since 2.12 was repalaced, if not before. I have found a reference to it which may help Scott pin down the cause of the trouble if it is still occuring. MilkyWay found an easier fix for their problem

I\'m not terribly surprised that we\'re seeing it again since the status page is reporting that there are in excess of 84k tasks ready to send.


If a database has been set up properly to handle a certain number of records there should not be problem handling a lesser number. Without knowing the designed maximum number of records it is impossible to say with any degree of certainity that reducing the number of records will have any beneficial effect. Having largely inactive records (like those currently ready to send) in a database is rarely a problem, once they are there. Once a database has been set up and populated for the first time the problems usually come with simultaneous read accesses and especially simultaneous update accesses. If these exceed the anticipated numbers of the database designers then all sorts of problems may occur.

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