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Message 4261 - Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 23:15:03 UTC
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For non professional participants having a nice screen saver is another motivation to participate actively. As of my experience Seti@h and Einstein@h have good s/s.

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Message 4283 - Posted: 16 Dec 2007, 20:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 4261.

For non professional participants having a nice screen saver is another motivation to participate actively. As of my experience Seti@h and Einstein@h have good s/s.

I certainly agree. It may not be the highest priority, but it would help you reach the top five BOINC projects. I believe you would get more participation through this than by any prizes.
Because you do not have to use a screensaver, but could just use it as a graphic when you want, it would not go on unless the user wanted it to go on.
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Message 4289 - Posted: 16 Dec 2007, 21:15:21 UTC - in response to Message 4283.

For non professional participants having a nice screen saver is another motivation to participate actively. As of my experience Seti@h and Einstein@h have good s/s.

I certainly agree. It may not be the highest priority, but it would help you reach the top five BOINC projects. I believe you would get more participation through this than by any prizes.
Because you do not have to use a screensaver, but could just use it as a graphic when you want, it would not go on unless the user wanted it to go on.

Believe it or not, that\'s something we\'re starting to work on. We haven\'t had a chance recently due to the server shenanigans, but now that my finals are over and I have a nice, long break to look forward to, I will have time to start working on this.
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Message 4306 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 19:26:03 UTC - in response to Message 4289.
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For non professional participants having a nice screen saver is another motivation to participate actively. As of my experience Seti@h and Einstein@h have good s/s.

I certainly agree. It may not be the highest priority, but it would help you reach the top five BOINC projects. I believe you would get more participation through this than by any prizes.
Because you do not have to use a screensaver, but could just use it as a graphic when you want, it would not go on unless the user wanted it to go on.

Believe it or not, that\'s something we\'re starting to work on. We haven\'t had a chance recently due to the server shenanigans, but now that my finals are over and I have a nice, long break to look forward to, I will have time to start working on this.



That is a great news! Thanks!

Maybe you consider diverse cpu types and video card capabilities but still you might develop a cool ss, yet shows cool scientific calculation. Rosetta@h has also cool a ss.

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Message 4307 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 20:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 4306.

Maybe you consider diverse cpu types and video card capabilities

The screen saver is programmed in OpenGL 1.1 and for BOINC 5 and below it\'s included in the science application, while for BOINC 6 and above it\'s a separate program. So you can imagine it\'s undoable to make different versions for all kinds of CPUs/GPUs as that will take too much time and effort.

And then, why want it? It\'s a screen saver, not the latest top notch 3rd person shooter from Crytek.
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Message 4309 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 20:37:27 UTC
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Well sometime looking at some project ss is relaxing that is why seti intiated ss idea and others are following. But who knows the project team might develop galaxy traveler cool stuff huh? ;)

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Message 4310 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 20:40:57 UTC
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Having a screen saver is a bad idea, if WU\'s are assigned to SS machines for HR confirmation. If the server doesn\'t know whether a user is using full BOINC or an SS, then it will assign WU\'s at random.

Picture the hard core crunchers waiting for HR verification from machines that run the SS for an hour a day on a 200MHz Pentium. Not good.

If you must have a screen saver, then build in a mechanism to segregate WU\'s from the rest of the population. Otherwise, leave SS\'s to the projects like SETI and Einstein.
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Message 4311 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 20:45:37 UTC

since penryn launch isn\'t any system configuration or software development having almost limitless possibilities or algorithms can be far more capable?!

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Message 4321 - Posted: 23 Dec 2007, 0:30:30 UTC

I just use the monitors off button.

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Message 6027 - Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 6:13:54 UTC

I agree please make a graphic user induced screensaver for this project. It would help put you in the top 5 for sure you are my 3rd priority anyway.....so if you care about us crunchers please help!!

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Message 6324 - Posted: 15 Jun 2008, 5:07:54 UTC - in response to Message 4289.

For non professional participants having a nice screen saver is another motivation to participate actively. As of my experience Seti@h and Einstein@h have good s/s.

I certainly agree. It may not be the highest priority, but it would help you reach the top five BOINC projects. I believe you would get more participation through this than by any prizes.
Because you do not have to use a screensaver, but could just use it as a graphic when you want, it would not go on unless the user wanted it to go on.

Believe it or not, that\'s something we\'re starting to work on. We haven\'t had a chance recently due to the server shenanigans, but now that my finals are over and I have a nice, long break to look forward to, I will have time to start working on this.


Hey Scott,

What about the screensaver project have you done yet we are world wide millions of your fans waiting for that cool screensaver? ;)

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Message 6404 - Posted: 1 Jul 2008, 21:57:19 UTC

Is there any progress being made with the ss? Cosmology@Home is the only project I\'m currently running and it would be nice to have a ss (like Einstein\'s or something similar)
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Message 6902 - Posted: 4 Aug 2008, 0:20:50 UTC

Dear Message Board!

I agree that a screen saver like those for other BOINC projects would be great. I think that you would generate increased participation, and let the user know more about the project, too.

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Message 6927 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 18:20:23 UTC

Hi everyone -

Here is a little update on the screen saver question and a few other bits of information about the project.

We are still planning to develop a screen saver, and we have several concept ideas, but our very talented graphics designer Nikita Sorokin (an Illinois alumnus from the college of fine arts) left this summer to work in Hollywood and so we are looking for new talent.

Also, Scott, who has been administrating C@H, is now transitioning to the research side of my group - he is now a graduate student in the Astronomy Department - so we are also looking for computer science talent for the next C@H administrator. I am keeping qualifications relevant to screen saver development in mind as we go through the applications.

All the best,

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Message 7037 - Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 1:30:23 UTC

Good to hear the news, just came by to voice my opinion about this exact thing and found this thread. I run 5 boinc projects but would put C&H in my top 3 of which its the only one that doesn\'t have a screensaver.

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Message 8517 - Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 6:06:24 UTC

A screen saver is quite important to me; I run a dozen or so BOINC applications and enjoy seeing the science. ClimatePrediction, SETI, Rosetta, Einstein, and LHC all have excellent screen-savers; I reward these projects with more resource-share. Several projects (Malaria & Spinhenge, for example) have less exciting graphics; they are my second tier applications. The resource share for applications without graphics is pretty small.

I have seen the project admins talking about getting started on a graphical display 'real soon now' since 2007. So far, nothing. I can only conclude that this is an utterly unimportant aspect of the project.

The disappointing lack of even a rudimentary effort on behalf of us pretty-picture-watching volunteers--combined with the egregious lying that CAMB 2.16 does about the time-to-completion of its work-units--means that I will be reducing the resource share for this project even further. Eventually, no matter how good the science might be, I cut projects that do not have displays.

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Message 8518 - Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 17:42:51 UTC - in response to Message 8517.

Eventually, no matter how good the science might be, I cut projects that do not have displays.


Having a screen saver reduces the amount of cpu power to go towards the computing portion. While I understand that it's your preference, it is not universally shared. I always blank screen after 1 minute, so for me it would be a wasted effort for this project to produce a screen saver when there are FAR more pressing issues, such as the massive memory requirements and long processing times that are clearly driving away users, particularly new users. I find it hard to believe that someone looking at a system that has 1GB of memory that is brought to a crawl because CAMB 2.16 ends up taking 700MB of that to use would be swayed into staying because the project made a screen saver, that ends up using more memory and would be C-hhh-ooooop-pppppp-yyyyy because of not having sufficient memory...

Honestly, the better thing for the project to do is develop a CUDA application if they're wanting to do these high memory usage / long-running tasks, but first they have to acknowledge they even care what's going on, and that seems unlikely because they're getting the data for Planck at a fast enough rate...
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Message 9278 - Posted: 14 Jan 2011, 19:20:32 UTC - in response to Message 8518.

A screen-saver can always be made optional, running for those who want it and not even loading for those who don't. As regards 'other issues', you have a point -- folks may be unwilling to work for projects which demand too many resources and time. Personally, I am okay with WUs that run for many days or months -- I also participate in ClimatePrediction, and very few of their WUs could be described as 'small'.

Here we are in 2011, and the devs have been promising a screen-saver 'real soon now' since 2007. I do run other projects (mostly 'umbrella-type multi-projects which cover lots of different kinds of science) which do not have screen savers -- this is the one that sticks out as having a screen-saver 'in development' for more than 3 years. I doubt there has really been any serious effort; why should I make an effort for them?

I'm done. I'll have the courtesy to let the current WU finish, but I am disconnecting from this project.

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Message 9287 - Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 21:22:18 UTC - in response to Message 9278.

I too agree...use my PC, give me a little entertainment

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Message 9637 - Posted: 4 Nov 2011, 3:34:22 UTC

Just a thought... is it possible to create a screensaver for multiple-monitor systems? Would love to watch all my projects simultaneously, instead of cyclining from one to anothe,r just as you're tyring to read something. Windows can do it (Starfield on 3 mons makes your desk feel like a spaceship!), wondering why BOINC does not.

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