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Message 4099 - Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 0:30:07 UTC
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If there are any planned outages or server maintenance it would be nice to see some notification on the front page news of when and how long,and if unplanned what happenned. Thanks JR
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Message 4106 - Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 11:49:42 UTC - in response to Message 4099.  

If there are any planned outages or server maintenance it would be nice to see some notification on the front page news of when and how long,and if unplanned what happenned. Thanks JR

As an \"add-on\" to this idea, has any consideration been given to moving the website to a different machine than the main server? That way:
1) Server status could be seen when the server is down.
2) Messages related to (1) could be posted.
3) A watchdog could be rigged between the 2 machines to check that the project server really is running.



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Message 4110 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 4:50:02 UTC - in response to Message 4106.  

If there are any planned outages or server maintenance it would be nice to see some notification on the front page news of when and how long,and if unplanned what happenned. Thanks JR

As an \"add-on\" to this idea, has any consideration been given to moving the website to a different machine than the main server? That way:
1) Server status could be seen when the server is down.
2) Messages related to (1) could be posted.
3) A watchdog could be rigged between the 2 machines to check that the project server really is running.


Something like this is already in the works (once we get the new motherboard for the old server, that is).

This will be a high-priority task once we get the old server back.
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Message 4648 - Posted: 24 Jan 2008, 13:31:33 UTC

How about you also inform us in advance when you decide to make changes to the project url so we don\'t end up loosing 24 hours worth of work which boinc just decides to delete.
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Message 4849 - Posted: 27 Jan 2008, 4:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 4648.  

How about you also inform us in advance when you decide to make changes to the project url so we don\'t end up loosing 24 hours worth of work which boinc just decides to delete.

If I could foresee that small, obscure quirks in apache and BOINC would cause a massive outage, then I would do that. The best I can do right now, though, is make an announcement that we would be down for a bit while I work on the server.
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Message 4851 - Posted: 27 Jan 2008, 5:14:14 UTC - in response to Message 4849.  

How about you also inform us in advance when you decide to make changes to the project url so we don\'t end up loosing 24 hours worth of work which boinc just decides to delete.

If I could foresee that small, obscure quirks in apache and BOINC would cause a massive outage, then I would do that. The best I can do right now, though, is make an announcement that we would be down for a bit while I work on the server.

As he takes an axe and a blow-torch to \"touch things up\". Just kidding. :)
Anyone who works in the field knows that occasionally, a set of circumstances can come together and bite you in the behind. Scott did a good job of tracking it down and getting things back on track.



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Message 4854 - Posted: 27 Jan 2008, 15:23:09 UTC - in response to Message 4849.  

How about you also inform us in advance when you decide to make changes to the project url so we don\'t end up loosing 24 hours worth of work which boinc just decides to delete.

If I could foresee that small, obscure quirks in apache and BOINC would cause a massive outage, then I would do that. The best I can do right now, though, is make an announcement that we would be down for a bit while I work on the server.

Not that my opinion matters, but I don\'t think that\'s the best one can do. If you admit that you can\'t forsee a massive outage from a URL change then Murphy\'s Law should be invoked. Warn people well in advance of what changes will be made and give people an opportunity to take defensive measures...like draining their queues.

When you announce that you\'re going to be down a couple of hours for maintenance my mind conjures up a scenario that might include file backups or reboot, something routine, but not fundamental like a URL change. This is especially true if you don\'t know all the hooks and idiosyncrasies whithin BOINC software. When LHC did a URL change it became automatic and unnoticed by some hosts while other hosts, like mine, failed and required manual intervention. Fortunately for me I had already drained my queue of C@H tasks and didn\'t experience any problem with the URL change other than a detach/reattach.
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Message 4856 - Posted: 27 Jan 2008, 17:33:20 UTC

Well, hindsight is always 100% isn\'t it? This project is still BETA last time I looked and gives compensatory credit because of this fact. ALL projects including those well established ones ie. E@H, LHC, and SETI have had their moments so give the man a break!
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