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Message 7072 - Posted: 19 Aug 2008, 0:24:33 UTC

Agreed. Count me in as another who is also fed up with the unprofessional handling of this project. I now have but one host on a 1/25 share, peeking in intermittently, waiting until this project has grown up a bit more.

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Message 7112 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008, 19:33:13 UTC
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Credits were fun and only that compensates for my electrical bils. Seems now that is time to search some more green man. see ya!
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Message 7233 - Posted: 9 Sep 2008, 20:23:35 UTC

Cosmo is now a poor site for credit. 70 credits for 6 hours work - just stupid to continue if you don\'t have a super fast computer.
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Message 7234 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 1:51:05 UTC - in response to Message 7233.  

Cosmo is now a poor site for credit. 70 credits for 6 hours work - just stupid to continue if you don\'t have a super fast computer.


As announced on the front page news the new credit level will be 120 credits per task when the HR issues are resolved and new work is issued under the new HR formula.
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Message 7235 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 5:25:09 UTC - in response to Message 7234.  

Cosmo is now a poor site for credit. 70 credits for 6 hours work - just stupid to continue if you don\'t have a super fast computer.


As announced on the front page news the new credit level will be 120 credits per task when the HR issues are resolved and new work is issued under the new HR formula.


Hopefully there won\'t be a bunch of angst from people who don\'t remember that the project is beta and those of us over here might not get any credit (not to mention that the science may not be valid in the event of credit not being awarded)...

Why do I feel that\'s just a pipe dream and soon the illustrious chart will be brought to bear on the project?
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Message 7236 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 15:33:15 UTC

Even 120 is low for 7 hours work. I get over twice the amount on MW@Home for the same amount of computer work. So tell me again, why should I keep contributing my computer time here?
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Message 7237 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 15:38:02 UTC - in response to Message 7236.  

Depends on whether you like the science or are only in it for the credits. If for the credits, then you know where to go. If you like the science as well, there should be nothing in your way of staying here.
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Message 7238 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 16:54:38 UTC - in response to Message 7236.  

Even 120 is low for 7 hours work. I get over twice the amount on MW@Home for the same amount of computer work. So tell me again, why should I keep contributing my computer time here?


I\'m not going to tell you to keep contributing your computer time here. MW@Home pays more credit on average per second of CPU time than ANY OTHER BOINC project, so clearly you should contribute where you get what\'s important to you.

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Message 7240 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 19:27:53 UTC - in response to Message 7236.  

Even 120 is low for 7 hours work. I get over twice the amount on MW@Home for the same amount of computer work. So tell me again, why should I keep contributing my computer time here?

MW is far off the average, they give ridiculous amounts of credit for their WUs.
This project has adjusted the credits towards the general average of BOINC, that\'s what I consider fair and fine.

If you don\'t care whether your credits represent what you crunched, and don\'t care aboit the science, go to those projects that grant as much as they can regardless of the crunchers efforts. If you like a fair competition and/or the science here Cosmo is just the right thing for you.
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Message 7243 - Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 1:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 7240.  


MW is far off the average, they give ridiculous amounts of credit for their WUs.


You were the person I was thinking about when I mentioned \"angst\"... MW is also a beta project. How do you propose to entice people to participate in a beta project? Sure, some will do it \"for the science\", but not everyone. As an enticement to test, and run the risk of getting nothing, I think a more generous amount is fair. If you want to argue that it isn\'t, then I don\'t know what to say...

Hmmmm.... Maybe BOINC needs two credit buckets? One bucket for \"production\" projects and one for \"test\"? The test bucket would be reported separate and will have no cap on it, but the production bucket will try to conform to the Cross Project Parity scheme du jour...

Would that kind of an arrangement help you to become less stressed out over the \"ridiculous\" amounts being offered by projects that are still in test mode?
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Message 7244 - Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 10:07:15 UTC - in response to Message 7240.  


MW is far off the average, they give ridiculous amounts of credit for their WUs.
This project has adjusted the credits towards the general average of BOINC, that\'s what I consider fair and fine.

If you don\'t care whether your credits represent what you crunched, and don\'t care aboit the science, go to those projects that grant as much as they can regardless of the crunchers efforts. If you like a fair competition and/or the science here Cosmo is just the right thing for you.


Then why are you hiding your credits at PS3GRID?
Don’t they “give ridiculous amounts of credit for their WUs”
With all due respect you sound like a spoiled brat.
Please say something constructive … or keep silent

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Message 7246 - Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 15:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 7244.  
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Then why are you hiding your credits at PS3GRID?

I don\'t know what you are talking about, I\'m not hiding anything.
My puter is not hidden in any project, I even mentioned my credits over there in the forum.

I don\'t crunch there atm, as the BOINC client with CUDA didn\'t seem to run good on my machine. I\'m waiting for a more stable BOINC with CUDA or Folding-GPU-Linux to arrive.

With all due respect you sound like a spoiled brat.
Please say something constructive … or keep silent

Talking about credit parity is something constructive, denigrating people who like fairness is not constructive in any way. The spoiled brats are those that want their credits for free to brag with them on BOINCstats.

Would that kind of an arrangement help you to become less stressed out over the \"ridiculous\" amounts being offered by projects that are still in test mode?

I don\'t see a reason for beta projects to give out more credits. If your in it just for credits, don\'t crunch beta. Credit jerks don\'t help beta projects much. I see a reason for projects that only give out Uppercase (BelgianBeer, SecondComputing) not to give any credits, because nothing is done there.

I see of course some valuable discussion about the different possible measurements of a fair BOINC wide credit system, perhaps the current benchmark-based way, that mainly looks for CPU-stress, is not everything and bandwidth use, RAM- and HDD-use and whatever else should be included somehow.

MW gives out more than 4 times what\'s asked for by my machine, that\'s by far the most of all projects after this one here cut back to normal.
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Message 7247 - Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 15:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 7244.  
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Then why are you hiding your credits at PS3GRID?
Don’t they “give ridiculous amounts of credit for their WUs”




Just to make one thing clear before the credit Cops arrive over there -
There\'s nothing wrong with the credits given from PS3GRID/GPUGRID. They use FLOP counting.
It\'s only that a PS3 or a NVIDIA GPU is a little bit faster than a normal CPU... ;)

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