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Message 1850 - Posted: 8 Aug 2007, 21:22:03 UTC - in response to Message 1729.  

Hi Scott!
My laptop is a Pentium M 770 running Ubuntu. I'm not going to have the ability to crunch any this weekend, but I'll put it to work on Monday.

Ah, ok, on Monday. I am strained. Have a nice weekend.


Thanks for helping me out.
Weekend is over. Testing is over. The result is clear, isn't it?.
Do you forgot your Test-Laptop? Not really, isn't it? But I think you could stop testing for now.
What ever! Mad employment! (Is that the correct formulation? Is formulation a correct formulation? *sigh* What ever.)
Thanks again! Great Job!
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Message 1891 - Posted: 9 Aug 2007, 21:00:06 UTC - in response to Message 1780.  
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@ohiomike:
Hi, now I clean your cache out. Thanks again for helping me out.
And BTW: THX for starting this relay funny threat! :-))


@Thrr Gilag Kee'rr: Unfortunately there isn't any PII available. I would help out. But consider please: ohiomike wrote:
normally don't run Boinc on the laptop because it is just A 1.8GHz P4-M that gene advice more heat than results.
I say: PII produce more CO2 than results. Switch off your PII! Your children would thank you!


@Scott:
ohiomike couldn't compute my old WUs from 20070724/25
http://cosmos.astro.uiuc.edu/cosmohome//workunit.php?wuid=327557]wu_072207_130549_1
http://cosmos.astro.uiuc.edu/cosmohome//workunit.php?wuid=327556]wu_072207_130549_0
http://cosmos.astro.uiuc.edu/cosmohome//workunit.php?wuid=327537]wu_072207_130529_0
http://cosmos.astro.uiuc.edu/cosmohome//workunit.php?wuid=322162]wu_072007_211609_0
http://cosmos.astro.uiuc.edu/cosmohome//workunit.php?wuid=322144]wu_072007_211546_0

He got new WUs.
The old WUs of Pam Heinze (20070724 and older) apparently also are not computed.
Hmm.
Are they too old?
Is there a CAMB 1,24 / CAMB 1,25 conflict?
Make it sence too... set some of the oldest pending results to a higher priority than the others so that they'd be completed first ...? extra wordsenset
Any ideas? If not, come on, f*** the past, go ahead!


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Message 1902 - Posted: 9 Aug 2007, 23:11:49 UTC

Here's something I picked up on Leiden.

HR.c shows all HR classes.

Those classes are explained in this PDF file and if you have time enough, on this site.

Or as Mark says it:
"In a nutshell, cause no rounding of trigoniometric functions is defined in the ieee floating point specs, the specific rounding mode of these functions is vendor, core and micro-op implementation dependant. In some scientific codes these very small (of about 1E-16 in size using double precision) rouding differences explode because they occur millions of times... Hense homogeneous redundancy and different classes...


Sceptic? Just try it, make a code using a lot of calls to cos(x) of a lot of different x values, add them together and run the same exec. (compile it once for i386) on different classes of same vendor...

Furthermore, there are hardly any Xeon PIII's out there anymore... These usually resided into servers or machines like that and most of them appear to be replaced allready... Desktops tend to linger longer with older CPU's and therefore show more diversity in general...
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Message 1910 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 3:50:14 UTC

Sorry, this is all a bit over my head. Can I gather from this thread that if there are unsent WUs that are holding up some of my pending results, the unsent WUs will eventually be sent? Or do I need to list the WUs here so they can be addressed? Thanks in advance.
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Message 1911 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 4:01:32 UTC - in response to Message 1910.  
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Sorry, this is all a bit over my head. Can I gather from this thread that if there are unsent WUs that are holding up some of my pending results, the unsent WUs will eventually be sent? Or do I need to list the WUs here so they can be addressed? Thanks in advance.


picantecomputing - you have only 2 pending unsent on host 1371 of which your operating system and cpu type should have no probs finding a "match" soon. Some work isn't being sent back out too fast recently... give it a few more days....oh and if you post about pending it is to help the project not for credit issues as that has been taken care of by a higher credit value per wu and admin has awarded credit to unmatched quorumed work pending. Admin is well aware of this general issue and working toward a soloution.

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Message 1912 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 4:13:44 UTC - in response to Message 1911.  

picantecomputing - you have only 2 pending unsent on host 1371 of which your operating system and cpu type should have no probs finding a "match" soon. Some work isn't being sent back out too fast recently... give it a few more days....oh and if you post about pending it is to help the project not for credit issues as that has been taken care of by a higher credit value per wu and admin has awarded credit to unmatched quorumed work pending. Admin is well aware of this general issue and working toward a soloution.

Yah, I really don't care about the credit. It's so little and I totally understand this is an alpha. Just wondering what the deal was in general and if we were supposed to report this kind of thing. All this "HR" talk is way out of my league. Thanks for the info!
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Message 1926 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 16:23:39 UTC - in response to Message 1658.  

I have what seems to me a lot of Pending credits on one of my machines because the work unit remains "Unsent" and so cannot achieve the minimum quorum necessary. And these units have remained "Unsent" for quite awhile!

Here are some examples:

319897
319961
322143
328067
327754

Thanks!


I just picked up one of your lonely WUs the first one). Strange that it was just sent out a couple of days ago. I'm also surprised I haven't picked up more of yours.
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Message 1928 - Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 17:07:21 UTC - in response to Message 1926.  

I have what seems to me a lot of Pending credits on one of my machines because the work unit remains "Unsent" and so cannot achieve the minimum quorum necessary. And these units have remained "Unsent" for quite awhile!

Here are some examples:

319897
319961
322143
328067
327754

Thanks!


I just picked up one of your lonely WUs the first one). Strange that it was just sent out a couple of days ago. I'm also surprised I haven't picked up more of yours.


Yay, this is such good news! I have old AMD units, too, just hanging out without getting validated because they remain Unsent. They are from this same time period, so here's hoping they finally get sent out! :)
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Message 1958 - Posted: 12 Aug 2007, 3:09:49 UTC
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Here are some examples from my hosts. It looks like replacements were created but unsent.

709296...337407...36.80 expired 9 August Host 2
731464...348149...50.12 expired 9 August Host 2
734361...349517...36.60 expired 9 August Host 2
735454...350063...36.09 expired 9 August Host 2
736039...350355...36.55 expired 9 August Host 1
737183...350927...50.90 expired 10 August Host 3
746319...355207...50.59 expired 9 August Host 3

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Message 2249 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 13:53:22 UTC
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I have quite a few pending on my Pentium E2160 running 64 bit Linux as well. In case that's also a HR issue - these Pentiums are Core 2 Duos with less L2 Cache and should be able to be paired with other Core 2 processors. Some of these results have been sitting there for 4 weeks already.

But perhaps there's just not enough active Core 2 machines running 64 bit Linux.

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Message 2252 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 16:22:02 UTC - in response to Message 2249.  
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I have quite a few pending on my Pentium E2160 running 64 bit Linux as well. In case that's also a HR issue - these Pentiums are Core 2 Duos with less L2 Cache and should be able to be paired with other Core 2 processors. Some of these results have been sitting there for 4 weeks already.

But perhaps there's just not enough active Core 2 machines running 64 bit Linux.

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I've had the same problem with my Linux/Xeon machine. There just isn't that many of them. I think that it should be paired with any Linux/Xeon machine (at least in Boinc 5.10.7, the latest source I have locally, I couldn't check the latest version as Boinc:Trac is offline), but it is still struggling.

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Message 2253 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 16:24:42 UTC - in response to Message 2252.  

I have quite a few pending on my Pentium E2160 running 64 bit Linux as well. In case that's also a HR issue - these Pentiums are Core 2 Duos with less L2 Cache and should be able to be paired with other Core 2 processors. Some of these results have been sitting there for 4 weeks already.

But perhaps there's just not enough active Core 2 machines running 64 bit Linux.

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I've had the same problem with my Linux/Xeon machine. There just isn't that many of them. I think that it should be paired with any Linux/Xeon machine (at least in Boinc 5.10.7, the latest source I have locally, I couldn't check the latest version as Boinc:Trac is offline), but it is still struggling.


I have switched my X3220/Ubuntu64 to Cosmology until the queue is dry. Just 1 machine, but maybe it helps a bit.


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Message 2255 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 16:37:29 UTC - in response to Message 2253.  

I have quite a few pending on my Pentium E2160 running 64 bit Linux as well. In case that's also a HR issue - these Pentiums are Core 2 Duos with less L2 Cache and should be able to be paired with other Core 2 processors. Some of these results have been sitting there for 4 weeks already.

But perhaps there's just not enough active Core 2 machines running 64 bit Linux.

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I've had the same problem with my Linux/Xeon machine. There just isn't that many of them. I think that it should be paired with any Linux/Xeon machine (at least in Boinc 5.10.7, the latest source I have locally, I couldn't check the latest version as Boinc:Trac is offline), but it is still struggling.


I have switched my X3220/Ubuntu64 to Cosmology until the queue is dry. Just 1 machine, but maybe it helps a bit.

Thanks, I've been hoping to clear them myself. Instead of running my MacPro under Linux, I went back to Darwin with 3 Virtual Machines running Linux hoping they would pick up the hanging WU's. So far they are all getting mostly new WU's instead of re-sends. I am hoping that once the Results Database runs down some, that they will start to clear out. I think Scott is scratching his head and looking at the scheduler (why it's sending new WU's instead of re-sends), which is all I can really ask at this time.



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Message 2256 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 19:18:58 UTC
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The pending units aren't all associated with 'Athalons' or 64 bit machines.

I have one here from a Pentium 4 / XP. (originally abandoned but still unsent again from 19/08/2007).

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=369172


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Message 2257 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 19:51:11 UTC

These two are still pending with unsent wingman since August 4th:


http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=355786
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=355787

They are both Pentium D with XP.
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Message 2258 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 20:51:33 UTC - in response to Message 2257.  

These two are still pending with unsent wingman since August 4th:


http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=355786
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=355787

They are both Pentium D with XP.


Would Pentium D be a separate class or is it the same as P4? If it's separate, I have one I could put on the project for a little while.

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Message 2259 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 21:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 2258.  
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These two are still pending with unsent wingman since August 4th:


http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=355786
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=355787

They are both Pentium D with XP.


Would Pentium D be a separate class or is it the same as P4? If it's separate, I have one I could put on the project for a little while.


P4-D is in a class by it's self unless Scott has over-ridden the stock defs from hr.c
PS- My P4-D only has 11 "unsents", it is doing better than most platforms.




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Message 2260 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 21:27:00 UTC

I went through most of my Pending Wu's & it looks like a lot of them have been sent out again or finally sent to somebody anyway. I ran across these 2 though, why their still Pending I don't know, 1's been Pending since the 17'th & the other since the 20'th even though they have 2 Returns for them ... ???

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=380325
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=391796
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Message 2270 - Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 1:27:39 UTC

I have 11 pending and most of those were 8/22 thru 8/24 and all seem to have someone running them. Seems to be keeping up pretty good to me.

1 Quad
1 core2duo 1.66ghz laptop
1 Pentium "D" 2.66ghz
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Message 2277 - Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 4:02:25 UTC

I haven't noticed any difference on my pending. Actually the number of WUs that are pending has grown. I have checked them and most have not been re-issued. Funny that it is affecting both of my pc's. I didn't think my AMD Athlon 2400 and my Intel duo core were that rare :?
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